Bonversations | Ep #46 | Brian Staveley (22-May-2024)
When did the 9/11 ‘truth movement’ begin to implode?
What’s the difference between ‘fluid reality’ and the ‘Mandela Effect’?
Why are some would-be truth-tellers still pushing fear about what was in the injections?
Bonversations
Episode #46 – Brian Staveley
Recorded and published: 22-May-2024
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* How some content creators seem to benefit from fear-based programming
* Mandela Effect in detail (and why some examples are more valid than others)
* The real-world effects which follow from pursuing certain lines of research
…and much more.
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Production notes. Bonversations Ep #46. Recorded and published 22-May-2024.
Hi!
Just a few comments on the Mandela Effects:
It is far easier to manipulate memory, even on a mass scale, than reality itself. I do consider reality not to be “True” (as in absolutely objective and immutable), but it is my understanding that altering reality itself on a massive scale would be too complex. Brian presents his idea that it is a divine intervention, therefore, as he is most certainly in agreement with my previous point. To that divine intervention scenario, I would argue with these questions:
1) why intervene only now after so much “soul harm” has already occurred?
2) why intervene in such a massive but mostly innocuous and scattered manner?
3) why not intervene in a decisive manner and solve all the issues at once, correcting whatever should be corrected according to the creator divinity, instead of these sort of breadcrumbs method?
My own answers to these questions, from my own observations would be as follows, although I would like to hear both Brian and JLB’s answers as well, to contemplate myself further, as I do not assume to know the Truth at all:
1) because either the divinity did not want or the divinity couldn’t. If the divinity did not want, then why not? If the divinity couldn’t, then that is even worse, because it means it does not hold any actual power, therefore becoming irrelevant. In my view, this hypothetical “intervention” of Mandela Effects only began after the internet was well established, to allow for searching and sharing.
2) because there is no actual intervention, in my view. The Mandela Effects are mostly resembling memory trickery tests to me, as if someone is running a gas-lighting experiment on a massive scale.
3) because for what was presented in the above answers to my own questions, there is no intervention. If the Mandela Effects are real, it can’t be the ultimate “God” behind them, because he would certainly not fool around if he wanted to intervene. This resembles human psychological technology being tested, at least it does seem so to me.
Regards!
If this place is a “Soul Test”, for lack of a better term, then of course there will be no intervention, especially because we need the “bad” experiences to truly awaken in a single lifetime, otherwise we would be sleep-walking in bliss, and would have no concept of “good” or “evil”…
Once you see this place for what it is, it becomes laughable, and your trauma will reduce substantially.
Life is hard for many people, and that’s part of Media trick – to PILE you up with guilt, hopelessness, despair, boredom, etc
Mandela Effects are 100% real. It takes time to research, but once you find one that’s 100% for you, that’s all you need. Mirror, Mirror. Life IS like a box of chocolates. Eye socket bones. South America 2,000 miles to the East
I see it more as a self-knowledge scenario than a test per se. That is, a limiting of the unlimited so that it can get to know its potential (to know, one needs a fixed, limited point of view to observe and interact with moral choices), but in any case I agree with you about the guilt part (check, if you like, my following videos in order: https://youtu.be/jVOISEku8Rc and https://youtu.be/tlW44xq20Kk ).
Yes, and if you add the fact that the whole mental/egoic structure of a human being is not really ‘real’, then if anything is fluid it’s not the reality but rather human minds (even on a mass scale).
But practically nobody wants to investigate how true or false the voice in their own head truly is.
It’s a deeply frightening thing for the ego, so it’s easier to ‘blame’ the reality or point to some external force, rather than trying to figure out which part of a human is true and which is a false self.
@Reality Skeptic: The mental character uses a weakened Ego (key function of the mind) to prolong its stay beyond usefulness. Moreover: egregores, my friend, egregores 😉
(There is no notification on these comments, so I only noticed your response now, as I was listening to your episode here)
I remember Ed McMahon being the spokesperson for Publishers Clearing House. I even remember the jingle that played at the end of the commercials “Publishers Clearing House, the house where dreams come true”. If asked in the appropriate way I would guess that upwards of 50% of Americans aged 40 -60 would remember it as such. Once they figured out what you were doing they would probably begin to “question” their own memory however.
” If asked in the appropriate way I would guess that upwards of 50% of Americans”
i’d put forth the number is significantly higher than this… e.g if they know who Ed is…50-60+might first say Star Search, and or Johnny Carson first, but 85%+ would say PCH eventually, assuming not led / prompted to do so.
I don’t believe to ME bc I have no false memory apart maybe a few movie titles which can happen to anyone.
Would love to hear Brian’s thoughts on the 2nd tower’s hole.
How is it possible there are no actual videos of the hole appearing? There were thousands of tourists on that day in NYC.
some of us are rooting for that the Acer logo to change…hopefully to an Apple.
: )
Maybe the best overall single podcast on the “how” of the 9-11 PsyOp and why it was entirely faked and not an “inside” job where people were killed: https://tinyurl.com/dzx7xyfb Brian S. Staveley & James Sloan 2017. In the very beginning of this audio, there’s a clip from way back in 2011 where Staveley passionately calls out a “we need to just push building 7” fool for his gatekeeping. Believe it or not, many thousands of these types of (usually self-made) gatekeepers are still around everywhere, those who refuse to push the full media-fakery angle, even if they themselves know it’s correct, because it would trigger too many people and furthermore make us all look “crazy.” Fear of being the “crazy” conspiracy theorist as opposed to the supposed “rational” and moderate one, as if all are not demonized and censored enough.